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one thing the city of san francisco or big cities or federal, right, the other smaller cities, smaller cities have smaller budgets. having a structure to support all this open data takes a lot of money. so, when these small cities are thinking about this, they should think about a way of somehow equalizing because they are putting into having these open data team, right? so, what does make sense? this is kind of an open question to get your point of view. >> do you want to take that, shannon? >> i think that there is actually quite ah few examples. we can probably talk to this more with smaller cities that are making open data efforts. but what i would say is that it's proven more than the value of the investment. the return that we've gotten just by opening up the data has actually given back more. so, that would be my short answer to it, but i think you probably have more experience working directly with some of the cities. >> so, i grew up in a small city so i care about small cities a lot, 15,000 people, southern illinois. i'm a card nastionv fan. -- cardinals fan. i should say tha
one thing the city of san francisco or big cities or federal, right, the other smaller cities, smaller cities have smaller budgets. having a structure to support all this open data takes a lot of money. so, when these small cities are thinking about this, they should think about a way of somehow equalizing because they are putting into having these open data team, right? so, what does make sense? this is kind of an open question to get your point of view. >> do you want to take that,...
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in the city. and some of the other things you're seeing on the map is the approved businesses, the businesses are currently doing business in the city. one of the things we said once we started visualizing on the map the slow and more rapid growth of residential -- residential property in soma and then in 2011 you just saw obviously a huge residential boom in the downtown area. so, we've just actually -- we're a company in southern california. we just relocated up here, small little office in san francisco, trying to better understand the community moving at a fast pace here. part of doing that is working with the city and better understanding how we can support open data. so, thank you. (applause) >> good morning, everybody. can you hear me? good morning and welcome to the hatchery. this is our newest space. my name is rajul pakash, i'm one of the founders. along with my other partners, chris and richy in the back, and lawrence who could not make it. welcome to 6 45 harrison and the hatchery. it'
in the city. and some of the other things you're seeing on the map is the approved businesses, the businesses are currently doing business in the city. one of the things we said once we started visualizing on the map the slow and more rapid growth of residential -- residential property in soma and then in 2011 you just saw obviously a huge residential boom in the downtown area. so, we've just actually -- we're a company in southern california. we just relocated up here, small little office in...
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the city decided to buy the building in 1999 for $2. we worked and looked at ways that we can utilize the building for an office building. to build an icon i can building that will house a lot of city departments. >> the san francisco public utilities commission has an important job. we provide clean, pristine public drinking water to 2.6 million people in the san francisco bay area from the hetch hetchy regional water system. with also generate clean renewable energy for city services like public buses, hospitals, schools, and much more. and finally, we collect and treat all the city's wastewater and stormwater making it safe enough to discharge into the san francisco bay and pacific ocean. >> in 2006 the puc was planning a record number of projects. >> the public utilities commission is a very infrastructure-rich organization. we're out there rebuilding the water system. we've budget working on power generation in the country. we've been doing sewer for the city. we're looking at a brand-new rebuild of all watt systems in san francisc
the city decided to buy the building in 1999 for $2. we worked and looked at ways that we can utilize the building for an office building. to build an icon i can building that will house a lot of city departments. >> the san francisco public utilities commission has an important job. we provide clean, pristine public drinking water to 2.6 million people in the san francisco bay area from the hetch hetchy regional water system. with also generate clean renewable energy for city services...
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he donated the land later to the city, though. sort of the farm house feeling of the richmond. >> there is a water tower with a windmill in the back. >> right, get your water from wells. that was the early boathouses. looking at that map, sporting men would come out in the horses, have little races with their horses and carriages and the sea horse races, maybe get in a card game, have a drink of the way to the beach. >> but this was when there was county land, so there was no gambling. the move people out to county for the race track. >> they were away from intense public scrutiny out there. >> my of the state is there were four racetracks in the city. -- my understanding. can you name them? >> pioneer, union, in the side, and oceanside. >> there ago. maybe there are more. >> we have a big article on race tracks on our website. outsidelands.org. >> the ingleside, you can still see that. >> they developed where that race track was, just south of ocean avenue, they kept the oval of the race track and created urbano drive. >> i think
he donated the land later to the city, though. sort of the farm house feeling of the richmond. >> there is a water tower with a windmill in the back. >> right, get your water from wells. that was the early boathouses. looking at that map, sporting men would come out in the horses, have little races with their horses and carriages and the sea horse races, maybe get in a card game, have a drink of the way to the beach. >> but this was when there was county land, so there was no...
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someone who has represented the interest of the water front all over the city bob has been a board member of san francisco travel the fisherman's whofer community benefit district the san francisco chamber and california travel association and under bob's guidance he has changed check out the restaurants and retaining the best of the best and has driven peer 39 into it's current world renown amazing number of visitors every year and it's reputation for being a family friendly location. i love a number of things about bob, but his own stated key to success tells you why he has been so successful at the water front and that is his belief that people like to be on or close to the bay and that they are drawn from the to the activity on the bay from the large cargo ships and to sail boats and kayaker and is the sea loin sanctuary that has come under his rain and the draw of fresh fresh that we take for freehand here on the water front. as i was no oned as port director bob sent out an e-mail to me right away and he said we are your biggest client and we are her here to serve and you bob has he
someone who has represented the interest of the water front all over the city bob has been a board member of san francisco travel the fisherman's whofer community benefit district the san francisco chamber and california travel association and under bob's guidance he has changed check out the restaurants and retaining the best of the best and has driven peer 39 into it's current world renown amazing number of visitors every year and it's reputation for being a family friendly location. i love a...
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from the city and we want to maintain a balance so that the 50 city is not subsidizing the hash fund for our activities and the general services that we require from the city and so we have under taken a nexxus analysis in 2004 and eight that looks at the balance of payment and the next is the methodology that ports with long term leases where the tenants pay tax they pay ampleel tax to be provided these services like any other taxpayer and so the nexxus analysis looks at the unleased land and infrastructure on property and compares the cost of services to our work order bundle and that has shown in 2004 and 2,008 that we are in balance and so since our profile proposal something taking least lands and capturing taxes for city services we are looking to find a new way and methodology to make sure that the city is whole throughout the life of the prompt. it will -- imi'll take a bit more about that but we are looking to mayor sure hat city is net positive from the development project and that we can ensure that over title through a time of flex type of nexxus analysis: so we are propo
from the city and we want to maintain a balance so that the 50 city is not subsidizing the hash fund for our activities and the general services that we require from the city and so we have under taken a nexxus analysis in 2004 and eight that looks at the balance of payment and the next is the methodology that ports with long term leases where the tenants pay tax they pay ampleel tax to be provided these services like any other taxpayer and so the nexxus analysis looks at the unleased land and...
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, the oldest in the city of san francisco, and now it is the newest part in the city of san francisco. through our partnership, and because of public investment from the two thousand eight fund, we are celebrating a renewal and an awakening of this park. we have it safer, happier, more joyous. >> 3, 2, 1, [laughter] =--[applause] >> it is a great resource for families, to have fun in the city, recreation. >> this is an amazing park. we have not revitalized it without public and private investment. the critical piece of the process of this renovation was that it was all about the community. we reached out to everyone in this community. we love this park dearly and they all had thoughts and ideas and they wanted to bring their own creativity and their personality to bear on the design. what you see is what the community wanted. these ideas all came from the residents of this community. as a result, there is a sense of ownership, pride and responsibility that goes along with what is going to be an exciting park.
, the oldest in the city of san francisco, and now it is the newest part in the city of san francisco. through our partnership, and because of public investment from the two thousand eight fund, we are celebrating a renewal and an awakening of this park. we have it safer, happier, more joyous. >> 3, 2, 1, [laughter] =--[applause] >> it is a great resource for families, to have fun in the city, recreation. >> this is an amazing park. we have not revitalized it without public...
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. >> what i mean is one of the little holes like this where the city will run out so it will not spill out onto the floor. >> they are practical and important to have, but they are not a code requirement. if you have children or something, you might want to have an overflow. if you are comfortable having one without, then you would have that choice. >> i was particularly intrigued by this sink. i know the manufacturers were up this year. this is made out of some extremely heavy duty class. here is bob, who is the rep from oceana who manufactures this thing. this is not the type of sync that would set on top. it recesses. what is this made of? >> it is actually made of glass. it is a company in pittsburgh, and it is an extremely durable class. they actually do the globe in chicago for a recovery like standards. >> and outdoor material in chicago has to withstand the heat of chicago and the cold -- the heat of summer and cold >> of winter > exactly. this piece comes in about 12 different colors. it has a backing to it, to. you cannot see through it, but it gets a lot of light back throug
. >> what i mean is one of the little holes like this where the city will run out so it will not spill out onto the floor. >> they are practical and important to have, but they are not a code requirement. if you have children or something, you might want to have an overflow. if you are comfortable having one without, then you would have that choice. >> i was particularly intrigued by this sink. i know the manufacturers were up this year. this is made out of some extremely...
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various communities in the city. supervisor olague that touched on that. and second the plan does not take into account the impacts of the roll out and pricing scenarios being developed by local power which you have contracted with to do this, and the rate fairness board wants to study these before recommending the rates which will affect what you tell people in your surveys and outreach. so we respectively ask that you direct the staff to return to you in december or january with a really detailed outreach program that clarifies the outreach strategy and integrates local build out and jobs, and infrastructure and incomes into pricing and outreach. thank you. >> hi folks. nice to see you all again. i think it's been a number of months since i addressed you briefly. of course i speak on behalf of the advocates and we have been very actively involved in this issue and we sent you this later with our considered opinion which i hope you take seriously, serious reservations that we have as advocates representing the commu
various communities in the city. supervisor olague that touched on that. and second the plan does not take into account the impacts of the roll out and pricing scenarios being developed by local power which you have contracted with to do this, and the rate fairness board wants to study these before recommending the rates which will affect what you tell people in your surveys and outreach. so we respectively ask that you direct the staff to return to you in december or january with a really...
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>> yeah 37 in the last survey. >> across the whole city. what are we looking at as retention rates in the target areas to gain through the initial outreach effort, the initial enrollment effort? >> yeah, i think the -- if memory serves me it's in -- like 47 to 52% in the deepest green areas. more than half the folks in the areas -- >> which is close to the retention rate that we measured for the tier one customers? >> yeah, right; right. and so by the second quarter -- by the end of june we will have completed these activities and be in a position to ask our commission to decide the final size of the program because we will have completed the survey and the early notification and really begin to form a list of very active and interested customers, and that's what we expect to make the final call on the overall program size in june, so then we move on to the third and fourth quarter activities which go to the largely the state required opt out portion. the state requires that four opt out mailers be sent to each customer that we intend to in
>> yeah 37 in the last survey. >> across the whole city. what are we looking at as retention rates in the target areas to gain through the initial outreach effort, the initial enrollment effort? >> yeah, i think the -- if memory serves me it's in -- like 47 to 52% in the deepest green areas. more than half the folks in the areas -- >> which is close to the retention rate that we measured for the tier one customers? >> yeah, right; right. and so by the second...
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, and that is so clear with the way you operate in this city. it's almost exclusively to the detriment of traditional san franciscans, and clearly it's a sign that our community as a victorian community was much better equipped to preserve itself, its community and its culture and something happened after the victorian community whereby we started to divest interest in our culture in our community and you folks really manifest that by eroding our constitutional rights, violating our city and civic rights at every turn and you've done that in a very efficient and effective manner, master manipulators would be a good name to call you. i've never seen our parks and our city in such a depressing, dilapidated and disinterested condition as they are right now. you might as well hang a sign saying don't come to san francisco, make a turn elsewhere because they're so pathetic when you see people driving atv's in a park that you're supposed to go to, to get away from traffic and you see the rec and park department driving around in cars and atv's in the
, and that is so clear with the way you operate in this city. it's almost exclusively to the detriment of traditional san franciscans, and clearly it's a sign that our community as a victorian community was much better equipped to preserve itself, its community and its culture and something happened after the victorian community whereby we started to divest interest in our culture in our community and you folks really manifest that by eroding our constitutional rights, violating our city and...
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a lot of wii systems, about 40, are being deployed around the city to different senior centers and residents facilities to encourage older adults to get more involved with physical activity using technology. we're going to spend the first 30 minutes or so demonstrating the wii. not only will we demonstrate how to use it, but we will doe demonstrate adaptive devices so that it can be an inclusive activity for all adults and children. my name is dr. chris thompson from the university of san francisco. go, dons. 1855. i have not been there that long. i am in the department of exercise and sports science. i think it is a good match for me to be demonstrating the wii, which is a good physical activity. i am joined on the stage by a student, not from usf, but from san francisco state. we actually talk to each other. this is mackenna. >> good morning. >> finally, i am joined by alicia from the independent living center in san francisco. it is great for all of you to be here today. people will be trickling in over the next half hour. we will give you a taste of what wii is like. we have set up the g
a lot of wii systems, about 40, are being deployed around the city to different senior centers and residents facilities to encourage older adults to get more involved with physical activity using technology. we're going to spend the first 30 minutes or so demonstrating the wii. not only will we demonstrate how to use it, but we will doe demonstrate adaptive devices so that it can be an inclusive activity for all adults and children. my name is dr. chris thompson from the university of san...
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the city or even if you see a picture. that's the sfpuc building. it's a wonderful building. ♪ ♪ >> we are here at j.c. plumbing. you are going to show was plumbing fixtures. >> yes, we are. very excited to have you. >> let's look at fixtures and faucets and accessories. it is going to be very exciting here. please join us for "bluilding sf." joining janessa and i today is andre. thanks for coming. we have had some great times in the past with some of these shows. you have been kitchen and bath in the past. >> i'm an architect. i do a lot of construction work. or >> do people look for when they do a bathroom remodels? >> that is a good question. kitchens are the ultimate and social room, while bathrooms are kind of the opposite. bathrooms, like kitchens, are part of homes and houses, so they are part of architecture, and they are opportunities for people to express themselves, to express their style. they are just an important element in the house is in san francisco. >> i think we can talk about how bathrooms had chan
the city or even if you see a picture. that's the sfpuc building. it's a wonderful building. ♪ ♪ >> we are here at j.c. plumbing. you are going to show was plumbing fixtures. >> yes, we are. very excited to have you. >> let's look at fixtures and faucets and accessories. it is going to be very exciting here. please join us for "bluilding sf." joining janessa and i today is andre. thanks for coming. we have had some great times in the past with some of these...
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from the city. and it has been an amazing project. each crane takes about 30 folds to create. and we have over 10,000 ornaments on this tree this year and this year's tree is 23 feet tall, and it is four and a half feet taller than the white house tree. and it is the world's largest oragami tree. [ applause ] and it took 250 volunteers to prep the models everything has to be hand folded and wired and fire proofed and then, of course, decorated or placed on to the tree. it is really an amazing thing to look up close and think about what your hope and wishes for the world. we have given all the wishes wings and we hope that all of the wishes come true, especially the wishes of the children, thank you very much. anybody else just get chills? it gives so much more meaning to the tree. wow that is a lot of hours and i am not good at math but i think that it is a lot of hours, i can't imagine. and you have to love what you are doing. one more hand for linda and she does a wonderful job. it is really do ge
from the city. and it has been an amazing project. each crane takes about 30 folds to create. and we have over 10,000 ornaments on this tree this year and this year's tree is 23 feet tall, and it is four and a half feet taller than the white house tree. and it is the world's largest oragami tree. [ applause ] and it took 250 volunteers to prep the models everything has to be hand folded and wired and fire proofed and then, of course, decorated or placed on to the tree. it is really an amazing...
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to the west wall of the mural there, so while the city's developing a long-term plan, i think there needs to be a short-term plan to make sure that there's no more damage to the murals, and also that rec and park will support the landmarks stat to make the mother's building a city landmark, although it was a national landmark, and we also need to look at the long-term goals so we make sure that what happens at the mother's building in coy tower doesn't have again and that we set up -- i've been talking to david chu's office for setting up a citizen's advisory committee or some type of committee that can work with the art commission at rec and park to help manage these issues so that there is communications between the two departments and that we don't let our heritage fall in disrepair like what has happened, and since i've been talking to a lot of people, not many people have been inside the building and want to see inside the building, so maybe either rec and park or the zoo can have a little mini open house so that people can go in and see for themselves the current condition of
to the west wall of the mural there, so while the city's developing a long-term plan, i think there needs to be a short-term plan to make sure that there's no more damage to the murals, and also that rec and park will support the landmarks stat to make the mother's building a city landmark, although it was a national landmark, and we also need to look at the long-term goals so we make sure that what happens at the mother's building in coy tower doesn't have again and that we set up -- i've been...
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about 44 in the city. 38 down at redwood city. forecast highs tomorrow no better than mid-50s. 55 santa clara and milpitas and 50s in the east bay. up into the north bay the same 52 santa rosa, 54 sausalito. extended forecast after the chance of rain saturday, we are going to be leaving it all behind for the rest of the week for new years and beyond and time for the snow report. sugar bowl looks good with 4" of new snow and snow in the offing for saturday. there's your snow report. we have sports next. ,, look at you guys with your fancy-schmancy u-verse high speed internet. you know, in my day you couldn't just start streaming six ways to sunday. you'd get knocked off. and sometimes, it took a minute to download a song. that's sixty seconds, for crying out loud. we know how long a minute is! sitting, waiting for an album to download. i still have back problems. you're only 14 and a half. he doesn't have back problems. you kids have got it too good if you ask me. [ male announcer ] now u-verse high speed internet has more speed op
about 44 in the city. 38 down at redwood city. forecast highs tomorrow no better than mid-50s. 55 santa clara and milpitas and 50s in the east bay. up into the north bay the same 52 santa rosa, 54 sausalito. extended forecast after the chance of rain saturday, we are going to be leaving it all behind for the rest of the week for new years and beyond and time for the snow report. sugar bowl looks good with 4" of new snow and snow in the offing for saturday. there's your snow report. we have...
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the america's cup coming to a city is all about the economics. and san francisco did its own numbers, and they said that its going to bring $1.4 billion worth of economic benefit here and 9,000 jobs. >> reporter: but a disappointed san francisco mayor ed lee announced that the agreement and the promise of many of those jobs was going by the boards, after cup organizers decided that developing the pier would cost too much. still, the city and oracle went ahead with race plans. others were relieved; they saw the arrangement with ellison as a giveaway of city property. and still others feared environmental consequences of too many visitors and non- recreational uses of waterfront land. then there was the matter of boats: originally, organizers thought up to 15 72-foot boats could compete. but they cost millions, and in the midst of a worldwide recession, only four of them, plus elison's, decided to take part. nobody is suggesting the race will be a bust, but the prospects for the city and the cup itself are not as bright as they had been. >> the eve
the america's cup coming to a city is all about the economics. and san francisco did its own numbers, and they said that its going to bring $1.4 billion worth of economic benefit here and 9,000 jobs. >> reporter: but a disappointed san francisco mayor ed lee announced that the agreement and the promise of many of those jobs was going by the boards, after cup organizers decided that developing the pier would cost too much. still, the city and oracle went ahead with race plans. others were...
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the harbor association is being to drop its lawsuit against the city and the officials personally if we could have a meeting without reservations, discuss all the points calmly, many of which would help the harbor and help rec and park a lot because the document has massive numbers of drafting errors, incon sis tense sis, undefined terms, and there are other items that get trickier to look at, but they're important to the harbor holders, probably not to the park and rec department, they call them pebbles in your shoes, and there's some more larger fundamental issues which we think we didn't get adequate due process. we think the best way is to have a calm discussion with phil in his office, go over these items and see if we can't get a happier new year. >> thank you very much. >> just as a reminder, this is only on items that is upeder the general manager's report. we do have general comment right after this. >> good morning, commissioners, my name is [inaudible] hernandez gill, i'm the community organizer with the san francisco bicycle coalition, i would like to thank the commission
the harbor association is being to drop its lawsuit against the city and the officials personally if we could have a meeting without reservations, discuss all the points calmly, many of which would help the harbor and help rec and park a lot because the document has massive numbers of drafting errors, incon sis tense sis, undefined terms, and there are other items that get trickier to look at, but they're important to the harbor holders, probably not to the park and rec department, they call...
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[applause] collectively, the result of this work in san francisco and in the city and -- cities and states across the country, will create templates for success that organizations around the rest of the country can replicate in order to help their communities move online. and getting communities online is the reason that we are so invested in this effort. it is critical to our future, because broadband drives economic growth, and broadband creates jobs. it provides the infrastructure that communities need to attract innovative businesses in a competitive, global landscape. broadband also allows businesses of all sizes to reach markets around the world. people who are aging or disabled have unfortunately historically been at the margins of new technologies when they are introduced. today, as broadband internet brings expanded opportunities in health care, education, and civic participation, projects like this one here in san francisco are critical to making sure that all communities have access to life changing technologies. [applause] high-speed internet connections make it possible for pa
[applause] collectively, the result of this work in san francisco and in the city and -- cities and states across the country, will create templates for success that organizations around the rest of the country can replicate in order to help their communities move online. and getting communities online is the reason that we are so invested in this effort. it is critical to our future, because broadband drives economic growth, and broadband creates jobs. it provides the infrastructure that...
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great that probably the city attorney would have to weigh in on and what our responsibilities are, the contract in terms of the acceleration of rates and the timing of that, but i don't want to get into getting part of those answers right now. i would appreciate it if you could through the general manager provide a report to the commission on it. with that, i don't see any questions of commission. is there a motion? >> so moved. >> moved and seconded, all those in favor? >> aye. >> aye. >> thank you. >> we're now on item number 9 which is general public comment continued. so, if you did not speak on item number 4 and would like to speak on a general public comment, please come forward. >> my name is jean greki, my background is in law enforcement, both as a police and as a sworn [inaudible] can you hear me? in january of this year, i was hired by the rec and parks department as one of six new park officers, i was one of the most experience officers and the only female. based on hiring requirements, we were to complete the six month probationary period, however, a week before our probat
great that probably the city attorney would have to weigh in on and what our responsibilities are, the contract in terms of the acceleration of rates and the timing of that, but i don't want to get into getting part of those answers right now. i would appreciate it if you could through the general manager provide a report to the commission on it. with that, i don't see any questions of commission. is there a motion? >> so moved. >> moved and seconded, all those in favor? >>...
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a plan for the high rise in the city in 40ms years. they have submitted an application for the plan which calls for a 17 story apartment on herald way near the station. if approved the development will have the way. the project is expected. a north bay football team who faced challenges came roaring back. the part evens triumphed winning the military bull in washington dc. robert found that fans are savering this victory. >> usa, state football fans show up often at the pizza company downtown especially -- but today with the team taking on bulling green in the military bull, it was harder to find a seat. >> we haven't got our bull game sense tuesday. we had a great year. >> they watched the team go from 1-12 two seasons to the success and saw their head coach take a job with colorado. >> i'm proud of them and how far they've come and they believed in themselves first and they've turned everyone else into believeers. >> there were more believeers as the game went on. >> inside the 10, wow. >> i think it's a sweet and sz of the sport's p
a plan for the high rise in the city in 40ms years. they have submitted an application for the plan which calls for a 17 story apartment on herald way near the station. if approved the development will have the way. the project is expected. a north bay football team who faced challenges came roaring back. the part evens triumphed winning the military bull in washington dc. robert found that fans are savering this victory. >> usa, state football fans show up often at the pizza company...
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you need the demand side to prove to the city it's worthwhile and to prove to the public you can build an ecosystem there. we can do things with that whether bottom up activities, gray area or private companies. so, it's a moment of real burst of innovation and the landscape changes as the public and private sides come together. >> i very much agree with everything that was said. i'll add that in addition to the public sector, at the city level for open data disclosures and the private sector i can also speak to how important this is at the federal government level as well as we continue to work with cities across america to get more open data sets released, to the question about the history and we really look to recent examples to see the dura power of open data sets. my favorite examples are weather when weather data was released, weather channel.com and many others, and gps global positioning system. we know the history there was the military infrastructure that liberated public consumption and use, but the things we expected such as navigation, but also things that people didn't ne
you need the demand side to prove to the city it's worthwhile and to prove to the public you can build an ecosystem there. we can do things with that whether bottom up activities, gray area or private companies. so, it's a moment of real burst of innovation and the landscape changes as the public and private sides come together. >> i very much agree with everything that was said. i'll add that in addition to the public sector, at the city level for open data disclosures and the private...
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as you look around this room, think about the events that you have been to in the city hall in this one rotunda or one of the offices and so many wonderful weddings and so many celebrations and so many heart rending speeches and yes, some sad occasions too. all a part of our community and our beautiful city. as you look around this room tonight, what a diverse combination we have. it makes me smile, but it probably doesn't make nebraska smile. we live in a richly diverse city and our elected officials represent it and our events here represent it and the tree lighting should represent it and indeed it does, we call it the tree of hope. and every year we get messages from all over the country and all over the world that are put on origamis and put on this very unique, unusual tree. >> there are many cities that have holiday trees, but no one has the tree of hope. it was started by an organization and now i will have the chance to introduce you to that organization's founder and executive director. who failed to put this in the proper amount of type here. no little things happen. the soun
as you look around this room, think about the events that you have been to in the city hall in this one rotunda or one of the offices and so many wonderful weddings and so many celebrations and so many heart rending speeches and yes, some sad occasions too. all a part of our community and our beautiful city. as you look around this room tonight, what a diverse combination we have. it makes me smile, but it probably doesn't make nebraska smile. we live in a richly diverse city and our elected...
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city and it sounds as though they are very amenable, they, the people behiepld the legislation right now, to having a self-certification process where those two departments can continue to do the work they need to do. so right now i'm not expecting this to become unnecessarily bureaucratic. >> is it based on, you have to drill at a certain depth? >> yeah, i don't know what the exact parameters are right now. but if your project got within a certain number of feet of, let's say, the ground water aquafer --. >> would you have to get a conditional use? >> i don't know the answer to that right now. one of those things we can ask about. >> so in january that's coming? >> i'm expecting it to come back with another version. >> who --. >> dph is taking the lead with some input from planning on putting this together and there is a city attorney that's working with them on it. >> and it's just an amendment to the code? >> it's an amendment to this existing legislation that's referred to as the ma-her toxickity legislation. it's an ordinance that was started when bill maher was still a commissi
city and it sounds as though they are very amenable, they, the people behiepld the legislation right now, to having a self-certification process where those two departments can continue to do the work they need to do. so right now i'm not expecting this to become unnecessarily bureaucratic. >> is it based on, you have to drill at a certain depth? >> yeah, i don't know what the exact parameters are right now. but if your project got within a certain number of feet of, let's say, the...
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>> john howard from the city attorney's office. what i heard was that the motion would be to recommend the board adopt the legislation and the bic acknowledges and recommends that a program be developed where there might be some period of time where fees are waived entirely and that beyond that the fees would be worked out in a way that would encourage the hotel users to install the facilities. >> but in a certain period of time, though, the fee waiver would be --. >> time limited. >> to be determined. okay, i second that. any objections? seeing none. >> on that motion. (roll taken). >> the motion carries unanimously. item no. 6, discussion and possible action to update current administrative bulletin ab-007, high top van parking quifl facilitation. >> before you is a change to administrative ab-007. the code has changed and the wording, the present code does not mention high top vans any longer. if you are to build a new building now, you would need to have the 98 inch or 8 foot 2 or all accessible parking. so this is just to brin
>> john howard from the city attorney's office. what i heard was that the motion would be to recommend the board adopt the legislation and the bic acknowledges and recommends that a program be developed where there might be some period of time where fees are waived entirely and that beyond that the fees would be worked out in a way that would encourage the hotel users to install the facilities. >> but in a certain period of time, though, the fee waiver would be --. >> time...
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so there is a need for preschools in the city. and 20 kids is not a lot. it certainly could be managed. i encourage you to continue to talk to each other, because no matter what condition we put on this, white zone or not, it's ultimately how it works and how it's integrated into the neighborhood. every kid that goes to my preschool, 150 kids has to be walked in by their parents. and it works. so i would encourage you to keep working on this. it is part of a cohesive community when you have churchs and preschools as part of residential neighborhoods. so i disagree that this is a business in a residential neighborhood. it's something to serve the neighborhood and i would urge the preschool to prioritize the neighborhood, so kids are not driving. that is something that we encouraged our preschools in our neighborhoods do. so i am supportive. >> commissioner borden? >> i'm going to agree with the previous commissioners and the way the project is designed it would be designed in a way that could be converted back into a home at a future time. as stated by comm
so there is a need for preschools in the city. and 20 kids is not a lot. it certainly could be managed. i encourage you to continue to talk to each other, because no matter what condition we put on this, white zone or not, it's ultimately how it works and how it's integrated into the neighborhood. every kid that goes to my preschool, 150 kids has to be walked in by their parents. and it works. so i would encourage you to keep working on this. it is part of a cohesive community when you have...
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you see detail in brought the city. people took tract homes and tried to individualize them in various ways throughout the cities. here is an example of how they might have done that. >> they had a lot of medallions and reliefs. >> the working class would go out to go swimming in the ocean. the wealthy would stay downtown like in the marines memorial or the elk and they would have heated saltwater. people wanted to swim in salt water. >> how did the water get there? >> there was a pipe that allowed it to flow all the way down. that pipe rusted out. people went swimming in the saltwater pools and they had different temperatures. >> you could have a cold swim or a warm swim. >> how did they heat this? >> he had a huge boiler. they're still trying to figure out exactly how he sucked in the sea water. he had a pumping system. >> didn't sutro make his initial fortune by being the engineer who figured out how to ventilate the mines at virginia city? >> that is the way he would phrase it. >> he drained them for water, not for
you see detail in brought the city. people took tract homes and tried to individualize them in various ways throughout the cities. here is an example of how they might have done that. >> they had a lot of medallions and reliefs. >> the working class would go out to go swimming in the ocean. the wealthy would stay downtown like in the marines memorial or the elk and they would have heated saltwater. people wanted to swim in salt water. >> how did the water get there? >>...
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problem in the city of 0oakland by. to see a chap in the weather once again. sandy is here with live doppler 7 hd. >> yes dan. we are already seeing signs of change in the form of clouds. we will be seeing rain by tomorrow afternoon in some spots let's check out live doppler 7 hd clouds moving in and high level clouds. check out the computer animation 4:00 p.m. tomorrow. we are going to see rain in the north bay possibly snow indicated by the blue way to the north around lake couldn't and the mountains. rain snow mix certainly possible down around ukiah and 7:00 p.m. rain in the north bay around the santa cruz mountains didn't reach all areas. skirting the coast and keeping it in the north bay by 11:00 p.m. rain light to moderate intensity in the east bay. will you be able to put the umbrella away for the weekend plan and what does new year's day look like. the answers coming up. >> those are key question. subject of new year new tonigh tonight. heading that san francisco over the new year holiday you need a parking spo
problem in the city of 0oakland by. to see a chap in the weather once again. sandy is here with live doppler 7 hd. >> yes dan. we are already seeing signs of change in the form of clouds. we will be seeing rain by tomorrow afternoon in some spots let's check out live doppler 7 hd clouds moving in and high level clouds. check out the computer animation 4:00 p.m. tomorrow. we are going to see rain in the north bay possibly snow indicated by the blue way to the north around lake couldn't and...
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i live in the southeast sector of the city. my impression is that we are not in a convenience zone, because there is no supermarket, excluding a 7-eleven that meets the criteria of the revenue mark. so i think it might have been answered, but i'm not clear. all of those small businesses, all of those conveniences stores, do they have to pay the $100 or they are not in a convenience zone? >> actually the southeast sector and the whole eastside of the city is served by scrapyards and existing metal recyclers. >> okay. >> so they can establish a zone there and that creates nearby what is called "nearby convenience." that kind of exempts the supermarkets. >> okay. >> so you are okay there. say you have got this kind of odd schizophrenia with lots of things over on 3rd street, nothing over on the west side and the north side. but that is why you are okay there in terms of providing recycling. >> okay. >> and commissioners, just for your reference in the back of your binder is a google map of all the recycling centers in the city. th
i live in the southeast sector of the city. my impression is that we are not in a convenience zone, because there is no supermarket, excluding a 7-eleven that meets the criteria of the revenue mark. so i think it might have been answered, but i'm not clear. all of those small businesses, all of those conveniences stores, do they have to pay the $100 or they are not in a convenience zone? >> actually the southeast sector and the whole eastside of the city is served by scrapyards and...
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and the last period is rego and mays within a city sign and speak to the power peace and nations cities communities, families and individuals. and that too will be hit in the evening. the next steps for this are in early january each of these will be at the baby opera house on display two receive public excellent and in addition, we will have them online in the ports website and to refute public comment and in late january the panel will reconvene and select one artist to move forward with and depending on which it selected it it can take between six and 12 most to build and construct the probability. so hopefully, in some time in 2013, this will been up and operable. and then just a few other project we have toll larry park which, is a small park between third street and creek on northern shore this project is the with d p w and they are hoping to complete the design and put it up to bid in the spring and construct it and last week the state coastal conserviancy's board granted an award to the board for $600,000 to remove dilapidated piles within the yech creek and i'll be come can bac
and the last period is rego and mays within a city sign and speak to the power peace and nations cities communities, families and individuals. and that too will be hit in the evening. the next steps for this are in early january each of these will be at the baby opera house on display two receive public excellent and in addition, we will have them online in the ports website and to refute public comment and in late january the panel will reconvene and select one artist to move forward with and...
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that's why it's critical how we accurately inform people in the city around the value of this program. >> thank you commissioner olague. president carter also wore a button down sweater when he made that statement. >> did he? >> it's important to note that ronald regan removed those solar panels from the white house. i am unclear on the agenda and on ours it doesn't mention any possible action item, but on the document for the public utilities commission it does and i think we want to make sure we're either today or the next puc meeting but i hope that's the plan, the framework of the plan can be adopted. >> i would like to make a comment. >> commissioner torres. >> first of all i never believed the hit pieces against you commissioner olague. >> thank you. >> and the man that defeated carter thought redwood trees caused pollutions and number three i don't think the staff is naive and to suggest that is inappropriate. they have been working very hard in this effort -- >> i -- >> i'm not talking about you. i am talking general in response. i believe the process is organic and i believe
that's why it's critical how we accurately inform people in the city around the value of this program. >> thank you commissioner olague. president carter also wore a button down sweater when he made that statement. >> did he? >> it's important to note that ronald regan removed those solar panels from the white house. i am unclear on the agenda and on ours it doesn't mention any possible action item, but on the document for the public utilities commission it does and i think we...
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when the house and city below went dark moon spoke, here are the rules she said. children will reveal their names to you when they decide to do so. you will never use ta eshe k wo on them. you will never touch me. she said. from below they heard dogs bang in the zoo. wait, i take that back. you are allowed to touch me only if i touch you first. are there more rules? i'm thinking she said. a quick blue flash filled the room and all was dark again. in prison he said, so many people through themselves at the electric fence they had to build another fence to keep them off of it. thanks. on the same page is our monthly actually bimonthly book club that the library sponsors. this month, march, the book of the month is the samari gardens. how many are you have read this book in >> that's fabulous and gale is blushing in front of me. it's my pleasure to introduce gale. gale was born and raised in san francisco. her combined ancestory a chinese mother from hong kong and japanese father from hawaii gave her a unique asspect much the language of threads, dreaming water and o
when the house and city below went dark moon spoke, here are the rules she said. children will reveal their names to you when they decide to do so. you will never use ta eshe k wo on them. you will never touch me. she said. from below they heard dogs bang in the zoo. wait, i take that back. you are allowed to touch me only if i touch you first. are there more rules? i'm thinking she said. a quick blue flash filled the room and all was dark again. in prison he said, so many people through...
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well, yes, there are -- in cities like the northern part and lima there are certain districts like -- certain ones and the capital and to the south of lima the district there and to the south almost border to chile there is a community that is unknown that we are doing research right now on it. yes, the value there and with chile and all of that area. yes? >> (inaudible). >> no -- you know what it is. it's a rubber stamp of the tube that is heating it. you can -- >> (inaudible). >> no it's a tube. somebody had a question. i don't know if we are running out of time or we have to go or -- >> (inaudible). >> (speaking spanish). i think it was done two years ago. it's peru veian. >> (inaudible). >> (speaking spanish) the style in the music to hit all those notes back and forth and then the guitar which is a spanish instrument and the lyrics are from spain and the type of song is indigenous and the type of percussion can is african. >> (inaudible). >> yeah, you could hear in the music. it has that pitch and that sadness to it. >> (inaudible). >> okay. so can you play the first song? we wil
well, yes, there are -- in cities like the northern part and lima there are certain districts like -- certain ones and the capital and to the south of lima the district there and to the south almost border to chile there is a community that is unknown that we are doing research right now on it. yes, the value there and with chile and all of that area. yes? >> (inaudible). >> no -- you know what it is. it's a rubber stamp of the tube that is heating it. you can -- >>...
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the only and one donny. >> (music). "i'm going home to my city by the bay". "i left my heart in san francisco". "i honor him". "to be little cable cars, halfway to the stars". "they chill the air". "i don't care". "san francisco" "i come home to san francisco". "golden sun will shine on me" . [cheers and applause] >> thank you very much >> i want to learn more about it. >> social networking and e-mail. >> i want to know how to use it. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> divisional divide is a divide between those with access to use digital tools and those who don't. >> with young people, having computers and i just don't know. they're doing it fast. so, i want to know. >> not knowing how to navigate the internet or at a loss of what to do. >> we don't have a computer. >> we're a nonprofit that unites organizations and volunteers to transform lies through literacy. our big problem right now is the broadband opportunity program. a federally funded project through the department of aging. so, we're working in 26 locations. our volunteers are trained to be tutors and trainers, offeri
the only and one donny. >> (music). "i'm going home to my city by the bay". "i left my heart in san francisco". "i honor him". "to be little cable cars, halfway to the stars". "they chill the air". "i don't care". "san francisco" "i come home to san francisco". "golden sun will shine on me" . [cheers and applause] >> thank you very much >> i want to learn more about it. >> social...
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first of all, the hatchery is one of my favorite places in the city. there is truly a bee hive of activity of the newest innovations that san francisco will be famous for. i also love the fact that just a couple of blocks from here is where our san francisco giants are moving on to the world series. but just in this room, all of you are giants and making sure that san francisco is the world champion when it comes to innovation. >>> 13 years ago, i like all of you started a company. i started in i-ti a technology company in the 1.0 world. it was a company that created technology to connect citizens better with government * . i ran it for almost nine years. and when i was elected to office four years ago, i was unfortunately more surprised than i wanted to be about how far behind san francisco government was. this was very 2008, 2009. with you i'm really proud of the leaps and bounds we have taken as a city * . i was proud in 2010 to help move forward legislation to really bring together city departments to work in a coordinated way with our committee on
first of all, the hatchery is one of my favorite places in the city. there is truly a bee hive of activity of the newest innovations that san francisco will be famous for. i also love the fact that just a couple of blocks from here is where our san francisco giants are moving on to the world series. but just in this room, all of you are giants and making sure that san francisco is the world champion when it comes to innovation. >>> 13 years ago, i like all of you started a company. i...
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people in the city, are also a huge part of the city's character and individuality, the things that make san francisco special and we want to make sure that that can keep going on. >>> it is incredible that the mayor and carmen chu have figured out how to do this program as a small business owner myself, i am unable to afford to be able to pay for a casp inspection, yet i know how important it could be to me should a lawsuit come my way. so, i will be applying for one of these inspections and i am encouraging all my fellow merchants in this area to do the same, to try and take advantage of what is a great program that the mayor and carmen are piloting here in conjunction with those other agencies. it is important for us to be able to serve everybody in our community, but sometimes it's cost prohibitive for small merchants to be able to do that. so, we don't want to see people going under by not being able to comply. so, this program will be really important to our merchants as well as others across the city and i hope and think it will be very, very successful. thank you. (applause)
people in the city, are also a huge part of the city's character and individuality, the things that make san francisco special and we want to make sure that that can keep going on. >>> it is incredible that the mayor and carmen chu have figured out how to do this program as a small business owner myself, i am unable to afford to be able to pay for a casp inspection, yet i know how important it could be to me should a lawsuit come my way. so, i will be applying for one of these...
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city. i will read a few poems. the first one is, after the bleeding. it was inspired by 2 photos that were in the san francisco chronicle in june 2005. the first, i will read the captions. photo captions. and follow with the poem. children watch as police collect pieces of bodies from a suicide bombing. front page photo caption san francisco chronicle june 14, 2005. >> the not guilty verdicts in the michael jackson trial. front page photo caption, san francisco chronicle june 14, 2005. after the bleeding the blood spattered walls draw the gaze of children wanting to see what has caused such a noise. how can they not stair. arms and legs, pieces of torso scattered, the smell of new death and feared hair. they must be asking the same question. a person who blows themselves up must believe in something. must believe in something or else not. hopelessness degreesed in apnigzs, righteousness disguised in a tuxedo of death much the children don't understand. i being of the dead dying man the blee
city. i will read a few poems. the first one is, after the bleeding. it was inspired by 2 photos that were in the san francisco chronicle in june 2005. the first, i will read the captions. photo captions. and follow with the poem. children watch as police collect pieces of bodies from a suicide bombing. front page photo caption san francisco chronicle june 14, 2005. >> the not guilty verdicts in the michael jackson trial. front page photo caption, san francisco chronicle june 14, 2005....
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and we have been in support of the commissioner along the way and our partners along the city and so thank you for that acknowledgement but please take some of it back. >> thank you. thank you everyone. items from the consent cal lar item eight a to award construction contract 279 electrical service upgrade to an builders incorporated in an amount not to intercede $2,849,999 in a kin semi-cy of 10% for a total authorization not to exceed then $71,049 and item b requests a no cost ten years license with golden gate auto -- society to install and maintain imported soil and plants with the upland area and the earn portion of sea wall at pier 53. can i have a motion to approve the consent items. >> motion comment. seeing none, all in favor? aye resolution 1292 and 12 knee have been a moved. >> item nine a first amendment too leafs one 48 one four with a california corporation operating an indoor out door casual dining restaurant located at taylor street through december 2019. good afternoon commission nears senior property manager i'll like to describe to you what i'm asking your approva
and we have been in support of the commissioner along the way and our partners along the city and so thank you for that acknowledgement but please take some of it back. >> thank you. thank you everyone. items from the consent cal lar item eight a to award construction contract 279 electrical service upgrade to an builders incorporated in an amount not to intercede $2,849,999 in a kin semi-cy of 10% for a total authorization not to exceed then $71,049 and item b requests a no cost ten...
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now, the city that had some of the heaviest rain with about an inch over christmas. several inches before that. >> stormy weather forced a portion of the great highway to remain closed. sandkÑ and muddy conditions made it too treacherous for motorists to get through. department of public works working to clear the debris and could with open to traffic tomorrow, it could be delayed if the expected rain causes more problems. the question is how much more should we expect? >> sandhya? >> not a lot with this next system. we have radar on mount st. it will ke. 4:00 p.m. tomorrow, clouds, rain line will slowly start to move towards the coastline. and at 11:00 p.m. we'll see rain but notice, many communities staying dry. our live doppler 7 will be tracking the storm. how much rain you'll get out of this and when high surf advisory will be going up and a weekend forecast. >> there is new video showing you the full power of a tornado that i will hit mobile alabama on christmas day. surveillance video taken outside of a wall greens store. you can see powerful winds tossed dpe
now, the city that had some of the heaviest rain with about an inch over christmas. several inches before that. >> stormy weather forced a portion of the great highway to remain closed. sandkÑ and muddy conditions made it too treacherous for motorists to get through. department of public works working to clear the debris and could with open to traffic tomorrow, it could be delayed if the expected rain causes more problems. the question is how much more should we expect? >> sandhya?...
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and those are the folks, the people at the city and county of san francisco that pay our wageses so we can go home and support our families. so, we are at a track maintenance department true civil servants of the city of san francisco. we thank you, board members for doing your job. if you weren't doing your job, we wouldn't have a job. so, thank you very much. (applause) >> i'd also like to thank the board and mr. rifkin and mr. haley for giving me the opportunity to lead young and also the maintenance crew. again, to reiterate what young said, it's the guys, the boots on the ground that really carry this through, that when everyone else is sleeping, they're the ones
and those are the folks, the people at the city and county of san francisco that pay our wageses so we can go home and support our families. so, we are at a track maintenance department true civil servants of the city of san francisco. we thank you, board members for doing your job. if you weren't doing your job, we wouldn't have a job. so, thank you very much. (applause) >> i'd also like to thank the board and mr. rifkin and mr. haley for giving me the opportunity to lead young and also...
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i know the church leaders in the bayview and in the southeast sector of the city. i know that we need to close the achievement gap of the targeted population, which is the african-american, the latinos, the polynesians, and our chinese-american children, because we are having all of these problems at our school sites our chinese-american children have come to me and told me that they will not do well in the c s.a.t. and they are struggling and that should not be. thank you for allowing me this time president yee, thank you. >> thank you. advisory committee reports, appointments by board members? seeing none, item l. special order of business. i now call the public hearing and approval of the state testing apportionment waiver. is there a motion and second? >> i move. >> second. >> reading of recommendation by commissioner designee. mr. burke? >> superintendent, commissioners, my name is john burke, i'm the supervisor for the assessments office. requested action that the board of supervisors -- the board of education of the san francisco unified school district will
i know the church leaders in the bayview and in the southeast sector of the city. i know that we need to close the achievement gap of the targeted population, which is the african-american, the latinos, the polynesians, and our chinese-american children, because we are having all of these problems at our school sites our chinese-american children have come to me and told me that they will not do well in the c s.a.t. and they are struggling and that should not be. thank you for allowing me this...
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and i think you will do an incredible job for the city. so from the bottom of my heart congratulations, and thank you for your incredible eight years. >> thank you. [ applause ] [ applause ] >> commissioner murase? >> yes, i want to congratulate you and your family for your election victory. you are now my supervisor, so i get to knock on your door. i think once a teacher, always a teacher and whether it was at the preschool level or any level you have always been a great teacher and you have been a teacher and mentor for me. i really thank you for that and one of the big lessons that i take away from your mentorship is how to be a bridge-builder and how to build consensus and how to be colleaguial, despite difference of opinions. so i really thank you for that and i'm not going to say goodbye. i'm going to say see you soon. >> so i just wanted to also offer my congratulations. no. 1 and not just to you, but to your family because i know it is a family effort in anything that you do, and that is because you really instilled in your daughte
and i think you will do an incredible job for the city. so from the bottom of my heart congratulations, and thank you for your incredible eight years. >> thank you. [ applause ] [ applause ] >> commissioner murase? >> yes, i want to congratulate you and your family for your election victory. you are now my supervisor, so i get to knock on your door. i think once a teacher, always a teacher and whether it was at the preschool level or any level you have always been a great...
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you guys the same thing. we couldn't have done it without you, the city of san francisco. like i said you guys better be proud. you need to be proud and i will tell you for dang sure we are all world series champions and wearing orange and black in san francisco. [cheers and applause] >> all right. now i would like to introduce two more gentlemen. the first gentleman his first year with the giants and goes to the world series. the other gentleman arrived halfway through the season. coming up to speak now is angel pagan and hunter pens. [cheers and applause] >> thank you guys. i am going to try to improvise since the mayor stole my speech. i would like to thank god. i would like to thank the san francisco giants for giving me the opportunity to play in front of you guys, the fans. my family. thank you for understanding. thank you for understanding my career. it's very tough but i try to do the best everyday. thank you to my teammates because they have taught me so many thing this year to play with a lot of heart and determination and passion for this game. they made me a be
you guys the same thing. we couldn't have done it without you, the city of san francisco. like i said you guys better be proud. you need to be proud and i will tell you for dang sure we are all world series champions and wearing orange and black in san francisco. [cheers and applause] >> all right. now i would like to introduce two more gentlemen. the first gentleman his first year with the giants and goes to the world series. the other gentleman arrived halfway through the season. coming...
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problem in the city of 0oakland by. to see a chap in the weather once again. sandy is here with live doppler 7 hd. >> yes dan. we are already seeing signs of change in the form of clouds. we will be seeing rain by tomorrow afternoon in some spots let's check out live doppler 7 hd clouds moving in and high level clouds. check out the computer animation 4:00 p.m. tomorrow. we are going to see rain in the north bay possibly snow indicated by the blue way to the north around lake couldn't and the mountains. rain snow mix certainly possible down around ukiah and 7:00 p.m. rain in the north bay around the santa cruz mountains didn't reach all areas. skirting the coast and keeping it in the north bay by 11:00 p.m. rain light to moderate intensity in the east bay. will you be able to put the umbrella away for the weekend plan and what does new year's day look like. the answers coming up. >> those are key question. subject of new year new tonigh tonight. heading that san francisco over the new year holiday you need a parking spo
problem in the city of 0oakland by. to see a chap in the weather once again. sandy is here with live doppler 7 hd. >> yes dan. we are already seeing signs of change in the form of clouds. we will be seeing rain by tomorrow afternoon in some spots let's check out live doppler 7 hd clouds moving in and high level clouds. check out the computer animation 4:00 p.m. tomorrow. we are going to see rain in the north bay possibly snow indicated by the blue way to the north around lake couldn't and...
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congestion and everything and saw the facility and the cruise companies that come here to a san francisco -- how can we not have a world class -- this is a world class city how can we not have a world class cruise term mal and i look forward to going with the maritime guys down to florida to meet the cruise companies and we want to double the amount of passengerrers coming down here and there is something like 200,000 people here that came to the port of fran and i can clearly see and use the -- to reach a half a million and i'm very supportive of this and like i said, i never thought this day would come but it's going to happen and i'm very supportive. >> >>> okay search excited about the new cruise terminal but i don't know if questioner excited about the cost. definitely excited about the new cruise terminal. and just trying to understand the numbers and looking at the proms limits for phase two and the change between what was approved and what is being requested today is free much million? is 43 million and i know you discuss the may be 11 million? i don't know if we discussed the who
congestion and everything and saw the facility and the cruise companies that come here to a san francisco -- how can we not have a world class -- this is a world class city how can we not have a world class cruise term mal and i look forward to going with the maritime guys down to florida to meet the cruise companies and we want to double the amount of passengerrers coming down here and there is something like 200,000 people here that came to the port of fran and i can clearly see and use the...